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50 Years of the Endangered Species Act – Live in Austin [PODCAST]

February 2, 2024
50th Anniversary ESA Symposium panelists.

The 50th Anniversary Endangered Species Act Symposium held in Austin, Texas brought together ESA experts from governmental, non-profit, and for-profit organizations. Their discussion covers the ESA’s fascinating and complex past, present and future.


  • Gary Frazer – Assistant Director for Ecological Services at the US Fish and Wildlife Service
  • Peg Romanik – Recently retired high-ranking attorney from the Department of Interior
  • Jimmy Bullock – Senior Vice President at Resource Management Service LLC
  • Leo Miranda-Castro – Former USFWS Director and current Executive Director of Conservation without Conflict

Where To Listen

The episode is found on the Mountain & Prairie with Ed Roberson podcast.

Listen to the episode on, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Google Podcasts.

Episode Highlights 

  • 10:15 – Peg Romanik discusses how the ESA transitioned from a more punitive approach to a more collaborative approach.
  • 14:45 – Leo Miranda-Castro shares an example of exceptional collaborative conservation.
  • 27:00 – Jimmy Bullock shares how grassroots efforts to conserve the Louisiana black bear in 1990 became a replicable model that eventually led to the creation of the WCI.
  • 31:30 – Market-incentivized species conservation.
  • 39:00 – The evolution of using the ESA for single species conservation to using it for landscape-scale conservation.